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Since he's so obsessed with me and always accusing ppl of shit, I will tell you why he might be rage cheating. Only that unlike him I have credible evidence:

1) Overnight he decided that he won't get any more bodyshot kills, he will only get headshot kills from now on. Look at this game in Volcano_RxD today. Out of +50 kills, about 40 were headshots.

1st video
@4:58:35 (hs kills log)

2) Decides not to stream himself getting the same type of shots and killing sprees, I wonder why. Curious how he sucks when he's streaming. 
I just wanted to see his gameplay so I could tell if he was lagging or something else, but oh surprise, he didn't record himself. How convenient. 
He has said it himself, if you are clean then clearly you'd stream urself at your best.

3) Bodyshooting / headshooting me and others completely behind walls. He even auto-locks on people when they are perfectly hidden.

1st video
@5:33:17, @5:35:25 (wnxdestroyer getting hs'd behind air at impossible angle after a ridiculous hs streak)
@5:42:40 (the two last shots I got were behind wall, the first one I was fully behind it and the other one like 2/3 behind wall)

2nd video
@2:49:21 (got hs'd in a row when already behind air wall)
@2:50:00 (auto-locking on me as I was already hidden behind ref silo)
@2:50:11 (killing me completely behind wall)
@3:48:05 (auto-locks 180 when he was already heading the other direction)
@6:10:35 (kills someone else and me with one shot without even being lined up)

4) In his only defense, he's still getting owned 1 vs 1 most of the times, or in maps like sand (2nd vid - @3:38:07). Maybe that's what is pushing him to trigger so hard in the first place.

1st video

 

 

2nd video
https://youtu.be/OU5Fc50RPEs?t=10160


 

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Vultima

Should be banned just for that name alone tbh, he gets far too much leniency for an unknown reason


Iv not look at all the clips yet, but that headshot streak is definitely utterly ridiculous and far beyonds Irans actual normal ability - Could just be having a good game & luck streak though

Wouldn't suprise me though, the biggest reason people cheat is because they believe someone else is and do it to "level" the playing field, or so they think, this absolute excessive posting on the forums everytime someone invis's, I said to someone months ago, its just a matter a time before he starts cheating. Definitely odd that he does stream literally everything but decides not to this time.

 

Oh and in the second video he has an edgy name as well, cool

@Iranplay as Iran or not at all

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6 hours ago, AprilWar said:

@4:58:35 (hs kills log) 

1st video
@5:33:17, @5:35:25 (wnxdestroyer getting hs'd behind air at impossible angle after a ridiculous hs streak) <- Not impossible to do
@5:42:40 (the two last shots I got were behind wall, the first one I was fully behind it and the other one like 2/3 behind wall) <- Lag, you got dragged out, because that's where the server believes you are positioned

2nd video
@2:49:21 (got hs'd in a row when already behind air wall) <- This complex game you're very clearly lagging, when you run from the hon to the tunnels as a shot gunner, your lagging all over
@2:50:00 (auto-locking on me as I was already hidden behind ref silo) <- He has 3 targets around that airstrip area(that we can see), the tech who died in front of you, the tech to the right, or the sniper who may kill him(you), its not much of a "reach" for you to be the next target he is after and getting a lucky shot
@2:50:11 (killing me completely behind wall) <- Lag has a part to play here, however not a clue how he got 2 kills with 1 shot there, if that was the olden days I would honestly cry bigheads lmao
@3:48:05 (auto-locks 180 when he was already heading the other direction) <- It doesn't make much sense to go the other way out the ref on that map, him turning direction and you appear can and most likely is a coincidence 
@6:10:35 This is actually on the first video(kills someone else and me with one shot without even being lined up) <- iv no words for this one, again if this was back in the day, I would of said bigheads, its not impossible, but the fact you died so far apart at the end there as well

 


 

(disclaimer: You cant use custom models in the game the server won't allow you to play with them, so he's not using bigheads lol, as far as im aware there is no way to get around that, unless he isn't running TT, which as far as im aware is a requirement to play on RC)

That being said, il say it again, he is clearly playing far beyond how he normally plays

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April how tf do you play holding V, bind that shit to right click or something :D

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shaitan
5 hours ago, Vultima said:

Should be banned just for that name alone tbh, he gets far too much leniency for an unknown reason

Oh and in the second video he has an edgy name as well, cool

which as far as im aware is a requirement to play on RC

It's not some conspiracy. Look at the names, they look innocuous at first glance. That's how our Alt-Right players started talking before. The only leeway they get: is they can do whatever racist bullshit they want in PM's to one another(as long as they aren't doing it in PM to someone who doesn't want it(aka attacking them)).

TT isn't "required", technically. For the new players they get in...within a week or so one of us gets them onto TT scripts. Win win situation. If they refuse to get it, well that's when the kid gloves come off.

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BiLLaBoNg

im confused here

pronounce Nikk_ker in your head, then say it out loud.

are you okay with what you just said/heard in your head?

if not, why are we allowing this individual in our server?

if yes, you are racist and clearly support racism, which is an 'intolerable' rule here that results in a ban. 

 

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WNxDestr0y3r

I was in this game lol and yes it was blatant abusing going on. JKS was in game, i kept telling him to spectate the dude it was on under i was on NOD and i spawned in ref he was in front tunnel on GDI in the obi tunnel facing air/ref he legit hs the 3-4 guys inside the ref that just spawned next to me at the PT and i told jks again spectate the fucker he's legit abusing lol then he would continue and pop everyone on end of air, near pp, hon, legit angles you CANNOT see. It's almost like you did SBBO and were able to see everyone standing still then he HS everyone from tunnel inside buildings it was fucking strange to watch but after all these years it's pretty common to know he was not clean that match lol and legit was rage hacking no way you're lagging for over 20 minutes and being able to headshot everything and everyone in sight including people in buildings from angles that are legit not even possible... don't know how JKS didn't see anything from it maybe "if jks actually spectated him he's getting alerted " or has irc access and watches what you guys do lol and could possibly turn it on/off at certain points of game. if i remember correct he even leaves/rejoins after more people started complaining and then was back to his normal ass mode.

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AprilWar
7 hours ago, WNxDestr0y3r said:

i told jks again spectate the fucker he's legit abusing lol then he would continue and pop everyone on end of air, near pp, hon, legit angles you CANNOT see. It's almost like you did SBBO 

That day he literally stopped streaming in Volcano, right before all the crazy HS killing spree that I already shared. It was as if he knew that the stuff he was going to be pulling in Volcano and Under was too obvious to be streamed.

Some other shit he does stream though, and you can still tell some things are still off. Like when he shoots and totally misses but still gets a HS kill (see vid). You can easily tell when you go frame by frame that he's not actually hsing people sometimes. Or when he doesnt waste a single shot and every fired shot is a HS.

22 hours ago, Vultima said:

April how tf do you play holding V, bind that shit to right click or something :D

Lol it has become sort of a second nature already. Free aim ftw.

 

13 hours ago, BiLLaBoNg said:

pronounce Nikk_ker in your head, then say it out loud

Most of the names he picks are always loaded with racism. I got the nikk_ker reference. Also the ChickenNuggetScoon is racist. Coon/racoon is a racist term; and nugget is a variant for the n word (although much more accepted), and chicken is the de-facto derogatory stereotype for African-American food preferences. If I were to care more about racism I'd say this constant pushing is a bannable offense; but I care more about people actually following the fucking rules than limiting speech in a dying game. Still, if I were to ever own a server I wouldn't allow racist shit like this tho.

If this level of shit person doesn't mind  breaking racism rules, what's to stop him from full on breaking the rules by cheating. 

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Iran

Chicken nugget scoon isnt a real term, it's a joke term made up for a Sam Hyde World Peace skit. The part where sam hyde interviews the black female school worker.

I was streaming all those games privately, apparently it doesnt automatically turn it into a public video after streaming so I just made the streams public.

youtube.com/ma1kel . About 30-36 hours of gameplay enjoy

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On 3/27/2021 at 9:17 AM, AprilWar said:

Since he's so obsessed with me and always accusing ppl of shit, I will tell you why he might be rage cheating. Only that unlike him I have credible evidence:

1) Overnight he decided that he won't get any more bodyshot kills, he will only get headshot kills from now on. Look at this game in Volcano_RxD today. Out of +50 kills, about 40 were headshots.

1st video
@4:58:35 (hs kills log)

2) Decides not to stream himself getting the same type of shots and killing sprees, I wonder why. Curious how he sucks when he's streaming. 
I just wanted to see his gameplay so I could tell if he was lagging or something else, but oh surprise, he didn't record himself. How convenient. 
He has said it himself, if you are clean then clearly you'd stream urself at your best.
 

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That day he literally stopped streaming in Volcano, right before all the crazy HS killing spree that I already shared. It was as if he knew that the stuff he was going to be pulling in Volcano and Under was too obvious to be streamed.

Was this the Volcano_RxD match that you were talking about, the stream just abruptly ends 3 minutes after the match started which I assume was when the whole HS spree happened. (I don't see Under on this stream, I assume it came after Volcano_RxD?)

 

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AprilWar
1 hour ago, Forithow said:

Was this the Volcano_RxD match that you were talking about, the stream just abruptly ends 3 minutes after the match started which I assume was when the whole HS spree happened. (I don't see Under on this stream, I assume it came after Volcano_RxD?)

 

Yes, that is exactly what I was talking about.

And here's Iran casually "headshooting" a rocket soldier without actually headshooting it.

 

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I've actually hs two bots on lan within two shots after each other 5 minutes after dblaney from TT scripts team asked me to do it.

dblaney ignored me because I record at 30 fps. I did it both with and without vsync cause he asked me.

Showed that to manuel half a year ago.

In the video below I kill the Patch at 5:00 without my reticle being over him

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video here:

 

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AprilWar

Good, we are getting somewhere... so u do admit that you are headshooting people without really headshooting them. Nothing that a good old custom bones.ini tb that doesn't rely in color-change wouldn't accomplish. Even if you were right, accidentally killing bots it's one thing lol - doing constant impossible shots against highly moving human players is another XD

I don't buy the 30fps thing. If you were skipping frames e.g. down-framing (and we are talking about half the total frame count), we would be seeing every movement you do a little bit jaggy, but it appears that the skipping only happens when you are aiming. At 30 fps video, it's pretty easy to tell frame skipping and I don't see that. This is what frame skipping (25%-50%) would really look like if you were consistently losing half or more of your frame rates.

https://youtu.be/fqinCTR24IU?t=4479

"other players like geko have the same issue"

Geko in the meantime:

[SAC-WARN] Geko using ROF CnC_Ammo_RepairGun_Player_Special with 23 (MAX: 20)

plus he doesn't even stream lol, so how reliable could that be.

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XtremePro

It would make me feel a lot better about myself if people would accuse me of cheating.  They used to 16 years ago, but not anymore.  What am I doing wrong?  Anyone?  Anyone??

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ehh
20 hours ago, XtremePro said:

It would make me feel a lot better about myself if people would accuse me of cheating.  They used to 16 years ago, but not anymore.  What am I doing wrong?  Anyone?  Anyone??

ur trash sorry

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notsocurrent

Iran had 360 something kills today on Under. It was a 4 hour map but looking at the chat log it seemed damn near every shot was a HS. I think he should record when he's getting these insane streaks and post that.

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35 minutes ago, notsocurrent said:

Iran had 360 something kills today on Under. It was a 4 hour map but looking at the chat log it seemed damn near every shot was a HS. I think he should record when he's getting these insane streaks and post that.

He did stream the game.

 

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vlatkozelka

You see ever since I became a mod at Rencorner, anytime I suspected anyone was cheating, I was told I needed "proof"
Fine, you can get proof for ROF, TH, bighead, whatever... but how can you get proof of TB and aimbots?

Well TB was simple enough, both to make and to counter. Though I'm pretty sure that more advanced TB can bypass our anti-tb, if they know how that works (we can fix that tbh, though I wouldn't blame blacky or anyone to not care enough to put the effort).
But now how do you prove aimbot? Short answer, in renegade, you can't.

Why? Well, the game has terrible lag compensation, terrible screen recording, etc... Even from the player's perspective, there are a lot of times where your aim is not exactly on the hitbox, but lag compensation saves you, and gives you the kill. If you spectate and record, it's an even worse story: nothing you see is true, shots are far off, and everything looks like aimbot anyway because the poll rate is so bad, it looks like the aim is always snapping to places.

So how do you detect aimbotters? Well, really there's not much else but judging the player's behaviour, given your own expertise in the game, i.e. our moderator's experience.
To be fair to some people, the game has no bulltet drop, no bullet spread, no nothing... you pretty much just aim and click. I'm pretty sure some poeple have mastered that art after playing a game that came out in 2002, every single day since! I'm gonna get a lot of hate on this, but even I was pretty decent at some point, when I used to join snipe servers daily, playing against people like bibixx, master, woj, etc... (short streak, I'm terrible as ever now lol)
I have friends who can snipe so well (in other games) it's unbelievable, now apply that to a game with practically no physics.

So what do we do?
Well... IDFK. This game has so much politics that keeping scum like Iran in the server is a thing... Glad to see his happiness is more important than everyone else's :)
 

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On 4/3/2021 at 9:50 PM, notsocurrent said:

Iran had 360 something kills today on Under. It was a 4 hour map but looking at the chat log it seemed damn near every shot was a HS. I think he should record when he's getting these insane streaks and post that.

A good sniper on average should get 100 kills per hr on maps like field and under if he/she only snipes. 360 is in the low end for 4 hrs, but I guess that accounts for iran's style which is center-aim and scope. With free aim kill count should be way higher; it gives you higher mobility, makes you less predicatble and doesn't get you killed constantly.

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